1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,520 I'd like to know what you got. 2 00:00:04,520 --> 00:00:11,120 Well, my wife and I drove down from Prince Rupert to Seattle yesterday. 3 00:00:11,120 --> 00:00:15,440 And during the night, you know, we were driving along. 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:16,440 Yes. 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,000 And we were about, it was about 2.30 in the morning, or 4.00 to 3.00. 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,480 And we were about 100, 150 miles west of Prince George. 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:31,480 And there was just a super bright, intensely bright light above us behind us, and we'll 8 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,640 get to the right, and then another one directly on our right side. 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:41,640 And one of them seemed like it was kind of shining at a pretty shallow angle. 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,360 It was hitting the top of the trees, and the other one was directly on the car. 11 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,840 And we were doing probably 60, 65. 12 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,480 Now, when you say light, are you speaking of shafts of light? 13 00:00:52,480 --> 00:00:53,480 One light. 14 00:00:53,480 --> 00:00:58,480 But there was two individual lights, if you see what I mean, from two different sources, 15 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:59,480 two different directions. 16 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:06,480 One was to our right, and the other one was behind us, pretty far behind us, and on the 17 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:07,480 right side. 18 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,480 But they were shafts of light shining down from the sky. 19 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:12,480 Right. 20 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:13,480 Okay. 21 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,480 We thought it was a train or something, you know, because they have pretty bright lights, 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,480 but this one is about three or four times brighter than a train. 23 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,480 And these were definitely illuminating the surface area. 24 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:24,480 Yeah, my whole car. 25 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:25,480 Uh-huh, okay. 26 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,480 Could you see the source? 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,480 No, no, because when they looked at it, you know, it was like looking directly at a light 28 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,480 bulb, and you can't see the filaments inside or anything. 29 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:39,480 And so then, you know, a bat, you know, a regular bat flew by the windshield, and almost went 30 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:44,480 through the windshield, and I ducked my head, you know, and my wife asked me if I was getting 31 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:45,480 spookier, son. 32 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:50,480 And we were in about 15 minutes to eight the next morning. 33 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:55,480 We were, oh boy, if I had my map, I could give you the name of the place, but there's 34 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,480 a town that's like, uh, Fond du Lac, Wisconsin or something. 35 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,480 It's a name very similar to that. 36 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,480 It's the name of a town, and there's a lake by the town, the same name. 37 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,480 Okay, what's the highway number? 38 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,480 Um, well, just hang on just a second. 39 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:11,480 Okay. 40 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,480 Do you have the map that we used on the way down? 41 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:19,480 This gentleman would like to have the name of the town that we were just south of. 42 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:20,480 Yeah. 43 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,480 You want to run out and get it for me, please? 44 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,480 Where the lights were? 45 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:28,480 Yeah. 46 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:29,480 Okay. 47 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:30,480 Burns Lake, British Columbia. 48 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,480 Okay, I've heard of that. 49 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,480 It's where the lights were. 50 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:35,480 Okay. 51 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:42,480 And then about six, three or seven that same morning, we were listening to the car radio 52 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:50,480 and heard that some people at a radio station or something up there had spotted a UFO. 53 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:51,480 And, uh, 54 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,480 So Burns Lake? 55 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,480 Well, we don't know where it was. 56 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:56,480 The station faded out. 57 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,480 It was that time of morning, you know, when the nighttime stations were starting to fade. 58 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:01,480 Right. 59 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:06,480 We didn't find out exactly where it was, but it was somewhere in British Columbia. 60 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,480 And we thought possibly it does what those lights might have been. 61 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:17,480 And, um, so anyway, about 15 minutes to eight the next morning, we were about five miles south of this town. 62 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,480 That's how the map, my wife, swear not to give. 63 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:28,480 And, uh, we were about maybe one half a mile north of a lake called Watson Lake right next to the highway. 64 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,480 Well, there's the highway this way north and south. 65 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:37,480 And then just to the west of that, there's a big long valley that runs parallel to the highway. 66 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,480 And on the other side of that, there's a ridge that runs parallel to the highway. 67 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:46,480 And it's probably a mile and a half across it. 68 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:54,480 And here, just a second, here she is on the map. 69 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,480 Okay. Here's, here's the, are you ready? 70 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:57,480 Right. 71 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:11,480 Okay. It's capital LAC and then the space L A, then a space and then capital H A C H E. 72 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,480 Lachla Hodge. 73 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:14,480 Right. 74 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:15,480 It's an Indian name. 75 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:23,480 Yeah. It's 56 miles south of Williams Lake on highway 97. 76 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,480 97. Okay. 77 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:31,480 And anyway, we looked across the valley and the valley was probably, you know, like a mile and a half to the trees. 78 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:37,480 And my wife noticed that there was something that was kind of silvery that was going the opposite direction as us. 79 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:48,480 And I fly airplanes and helicopters for a living, you know, and I would guess that it was probably doing maybe 30 to 40 knots going the opposite direction from us. 80 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,480 I was going real slow. 81 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:55,480 And then it started to speed up just a little teeny bit, you know, just enough to where you could notice it. 82 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,480 And my wife noticed it first and we pulled over the side of the road. 83 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,480 And I thought, you know, those new short body jets that they have. 84 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:04,480 Right. 85 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,480 Well, I thought possibly it might be something like that because the fuselage looked that big. 86 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:16,480 But later on, you know, I realized that it was much bigger than a conventional, like a 747 fuselage. 87 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:25,480 And anyway, we stopped and I got out and looked and I realized that it couldn't be one of those jets because it didn't have any impenals on it. 88 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,480 There was no tail or anything. 89 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:34,480 It was, you know, just blunt or here and and I looked up towards the front and didn't have any wings on it. 90 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:40,480 And so I figured it might be something like, you know, a Sikorsky S61, a big helicopter or something. 91 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,480 And that would have been fine. 92 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,480 But it didn't have any rotor blades on it either. 93 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:53,480 It was probably, it looked to me like there was a black or a dark stripe down the side of it. 94 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,480 And it looked like possibly there might be some windows or something along the side. 95 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,480 That's why initially we thought that it might be an air liner or something. 96 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,480 Now you feel it was big as a fuselage on a 747? 97 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:05,480 Easily. 98 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,480 Okay. 99 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,480 Any lights, colored lights? 100 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:10,480 No, none. 101 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:15,480 Okay. Now those openings that appeared to be windows, were there any lights coming out of that? 102 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,480 No, none. 103 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:18,480 Okay. 104 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:26,480 And you know how conventional airplane turns, you know, you turn a wheel and it turns the ailerons on the 105 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,480 trailing edge of the wings and the airplane banks and that's how it turns. 106 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,480 Well, this one didn't turn like that. 107 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,480 It turned on a horizontal axis. 108 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:35,480 Uh-huh. 109 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,480 You know, it kind of like a car skidding around a turn or something. 110 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,480 Only it didn't skid, you know. 111 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,480 And it flew flat the whole time I saw it. 112 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,480 It never rolled up on one side or anything like that. 113 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:53,480 And we watched it for probably maybe two minutes altogether. 114 00:06:53,480 --> 00:07:03,480 And when it finally took off, the thing kind of yawed to the left a little bit and then the nose came up 115 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,480 and within two seconds it was out of sight. 116 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,480 And the weather was just, you know, cover, it was clear blue sky, no wind. 117 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,480 Okay, what angle did this end? 118 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:18,480 It looked to me like about maybe, you know, 35, 45 degrees. 119 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:19,480 Okay. 120 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:24,480 Now, I don't remember what you said. 121 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,480 Did you stop the car? 122 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,480 Oh yeah. 123 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:28,480 Okay, did you get out? 124 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:29,480 Yeah. 125 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:30,480 Did you hear any sound? 126 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:31,480 None. 127 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:32,480 Nothing, okay. 128 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:37,480 See, and I knew that, you know, if it was like an S61, I could hear a whine from the 129 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,480 turbines, you know, in that distance you can easily hear it. 130 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,480 And I didn't hear any noise whatsoever coming from it. 131 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:50,480 And a truck had just gone by us, you know, and this was probably three minutes before 132 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,480 and it was a log and truck that had passed us. 133 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,480 And he must have been, you know, a few miles ahead of us anyway because when we got out 134 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,480 of the car it was just dead silent. 135 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,480 You know, no noise from cars or anything like that. 136 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:03,480 Right. 137 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,480 Okay, do you have any estimate as to how close that thing was to the ground? 138 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:08,480 Oh yeah. 139 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:09,480 We'll see. 140 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,480 The ridge is what it was flying over. 141 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:13,480 Uh-huh. 142 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:19,480 And it was probably 150 feet above the tops of the trees. 143 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,480 Oh, that's low. 144 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,480 How about distance from you? 145 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,480 About a mile and a half. 146 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:27,480 A mile and a half. 147 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,480 Was there weather conditions at that time? 148 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,480 Clear blue sky, no wind. 149 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,480 Can't beat that. 150 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,480 Okay, now I'd like to get back to the two-and-a-half sublite. 151 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:40,480 Okay. 152 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,480 Let's start with the one that came down in your car. 153 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,480 How long did that last? 154 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:50,480 About maybe two-and-a-half or three minutes. 155 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,480 Okay, what color was it? 156 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:53,480 White-white. 157 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:54,480 All right. 158 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,480 Wow, this was all going on. 159 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:01,480 Did you or your wife have any unusual physical or mental feelings? 160 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:06,480 Um, well, the only feeling was I was just really tired because we drove from Prince 161 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,480 Rupert State to Seattle, you know, into 21 hours. 162 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:15,480 And at that time we'd been driving about eight or nine hours, but I do it regularly, you 163 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,480 know, when I go on trips. 164 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:18,480 Uh-huh. 165 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,480 I don't think I could have, you know, been making that because I was tired because I just 166 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,480 was walking up, you know, eight or nine hours before. 167 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:25,480 Right. 168 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,480 Okay, then you're familiar with that highway? 169 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:28,480 Oh, yeah. 170 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:33,480 Okay, how, uh, was there any traffic while all this was going on? 171 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:34,480 No, none. 172 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,480 Is that unusual for that hour of the morning? 173 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:43,480 Um, well, you know, it was like 2.30 quarter-thirty in the morning, you know, and it's just, 174 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:44,480 it's open highway. 175 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,480 There's just nothing out there. 176 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:51,480 Okay, now while you were, you and your car were engulfed in this light, do you have any 177 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,480 problems with the car? 178 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:54,480 Um, no. 179 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:55,480 Engine flights? 180 00:09:55,480 --> 00:10:00,480 No, because I, you know, I had read stories about stuff like that, you know, the batteries 181 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:01,480 that go dead and everything. 182 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:02,480 Right. 183 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:09,480 And we had our radio on at the time and, uh, the station had faded so all we were getting 184 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,480 was static and there was no change in the static and the car, you know, continued driving 185 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:14,480 normally. 186 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,480 Okay, we had any problems since then? 187 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,480 With the car? 188 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:20,480 Right. 189 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:21,480 Um, no. 190 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:22,480 Okay. 191 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:23,480 No, huh. 192 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:28,480 Now did that light illuminate the area around the car also? 193 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:29,480 Oh, yeah. 194 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,480 So maybe, uh, oh, 50 or 100 feet. 195 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:40,480 Okay, but you did, you, did you stop the car at that time while all this was going on? 196 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:41,480 Not on a bet. 197 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:42,480 Oh, okay. 198 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,480 Okay, I was just, we kept going. 199 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:45,480 Right, okay. 200 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:52,480 And now the other light, the other shaft of light, that was also striking the ground? 201 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,480 Um, at a real severe angle. 202 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,480 Um, see there was three altogether. 203 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,480 There was the one on the right side of the car, which was above the car. 204 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:09,480 There was the one that was like on the quartering rear right side of the car from above. 205 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:15,480 And there was another one that seemed like it was below or maybe behind that one that 206 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:21,480 was shining from maybe a height of, you know, 10 or 15 feet above the ground and looked 207 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,480 like it was right in the trees and it came straight out and it was illuminating the tops 208 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,480 of the trees in front of us and on the left side. 209 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,480 And I thought, you know, maybe it might be a railroad train or something, but there were 210 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,480 any tracks alongside the highway. 211 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,480 Well that shaft of light then was shining out on the horizontal? 212 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:39,480 Right. 213 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:40,480 Okay. 214 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:45,480 Now the one to the right but to the back of the car was that shining on the car also? 215 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,480 That's the one that was hitting the car. 216 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,480 Okay, what about the one, the other one now? 217 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:54,480 It was kind of, that was the one that was sort of at an angle, you know. 218 00:11:54,480 --> 00:12:00,480 Um, it was, well it was hitting the tops of the trees. 219 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:01,480 Okay. 220 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:02,480 Near you? 221 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,480 Yeah, in front of us on the left side. 222 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:05,480 Okay. 223 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:10,480 Did these shafts of light remain stationary or did they have any sweeping movement? 224 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,480 They weren't moving, no. 225 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:13,480 Okay. 226 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:14,480 They were all three white? 227 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:15,480 Right. 228 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:16,480 Okay. 229 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,480 And no visible source? 230 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,480 Well I couldn't see, you know, because of the brightness of them. 231 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,480 The one that was hitting the car? 232 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:24,480 Right. 233 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:25,480 Or any of them. 234 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:26,480 Okay. 235 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:27,480 They were that bright then? 236 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,480 Well I turned, the only one that I actually turned around and looked at was the one that 237 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,480 was down real close to the ground and behind us. 238 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:34,480 Uh huh. 239 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,480 And the one that was below the one on the rear right side. 240 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:42,480 And it was probably three or four times brighter than what you see on the front of railroad 241 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,480 engines, you know, diesel engines. 242 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:45,480 Right. 243 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,480 Now that, your wife slept through all this? 244 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:48,480 Oh no, she saw it. 245 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,480 Oh she saw it too. 246 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:51,480 Yeah. 247 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,480 And that occurred during, in the Burns Lake area, right? 248 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:56,480 Right. 249 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:57,480 Okay. 250 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,480 And see well, what happened was she said, you know, I wonder what that is, we pull over 251 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,480 and sorry, we're going to stop. 252 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:09,480 And uh, what happened was, you know, I sat around and looked at it and tried to figure 253 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:10,480 out what it was. 254 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,480 And like I said, you know, I fly for a living, you know, in Alaska. 255 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:15,480 Right. 256 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,480 And I know what an airplane looks like. 257 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:18,480 And it wasn't an airplane. 258 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:19,480 And I know what a helicopter looks like. 259 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,480 And it wasn't a helicopter either. 260 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:22,480 And I've never seen anything. 261 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:27,480 Well when I was in Vietnam, we used to watch them launch Hawk missiles all the time. 262 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,480 And it accelerated faster than I've ever seen a Hawk missile accelerate. 263 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,480 I mean just two seconds and it was completely out of sight. 264 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,480 And didn't leave any kind of a vapor trail or anything like that behind it. 265 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,480 And that object was definitely silver? 266 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:45,480 Uh, either a silver or a very bright white. 267 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,480 See we were about a mile and a half away from it. 268 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:49,480 Right. 269 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:54,480 Well, while I was standing there looking at it, my wife got her camera out to the picture 270 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:55,480 of it. 271 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:56,480 Uh huh. 272 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,480 In broad daylight? 273 00:13:58,480 --> 00:13:59,480 Yeah. 274 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:00,480 Oh. 275 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:01,480 Huh. 276 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:02,480 Okay. 277 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:09,480 Now in your opinion, would that object be solid or possibly metallic? 278 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,480 Oh it had to be. 279 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,480 You know I thought possibly there for a few minutes it might be a balloon, but I've never 280 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,480 seen a balloon accelerate like that. 281 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,480 You know balloons are basically straight up and straight down. 282 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:24,480 And this was moving forward when we first saw it. 283 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:30,480 Okay, would you say that or in your opinion would that object be pacing you? 284 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,480 No, it was going the opposite direction. 285 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:33,480 The opposite direction, okay. 286 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,480 And it did it any time while you were watching it, it approached you? 287 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:38,480 No. 288 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:39,480 Okay. 289 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:40,480 Uh huh. 290 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:45,480 Boy that's a lot of experiences for one night. 291 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:46,480 Yeah, really? 292 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,480 And that was yesterday the first? 293 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,480 The morning of the first? 294 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,480 Uh, well no. 295 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:53,480 It wasn't. 296 00:14:53,480 --> 00:15:00,480 Uh, let's see, we left, we left Ketchikan at about 11 a.m., got in a Prince Rupert 297 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,480 at 6, we were out of Prince Rupert at 6.30 in the evening of the 30th. 298 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,480 So this would have to be the 31st very next morning. 299 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:08,480 Morning, okay. 300 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,480 2.30 to 31st is when it all started. 301 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:12,480 Right. 302 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:13,480 Okay. 303 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,480 I don't know how the picture's going to turn out because we have a 55 millimeter lens 304 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:21,480 on it and my wife took the picture and she's, you know, she usually doesn't screw up pictures. 305 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:26,480 So I'm sure it'll turn out that we've got, it's a Lamaya C-core 35 millimeter. 306 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:35,480 And it's got two focus rings in the center of it and it filled up about one half of the 307 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:41,480 center ring, which is not going to make it real big, but I'm sure it can be blown up. 308 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:42,480 Okay. 309 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:48,480 And what happened was she took a picture and then I said, well, you know, let me have it. 310 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:53,480 We have a 85 to a 205 millimeter zoom lens on it. 311 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:58,480 And I was screwing the zoom lens in and I happened to glance up, you know, when the 312 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,480 aircraft yawed to the left and started to accelerate and it was gone, you know, before 313 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,480 I could ever get the zoom lens on it. 314 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,480 Otherwise we'd have had a real decent picture. 315 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,480 When it yawed, started yawing to the left is when she took her picture. 316 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,480 I say, okay, if that turns out, will you notify us? 317 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:16,480 Oh, certainly. 318 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:17,480 Yeah. 319 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:22,480 I don't know, you know, what's what the picture is going to come out like. 320 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,480 I'm sure it'll be very small in the picture. 321 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,480 And I wish we had got our telephoto on there sooner. 322 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:33,480 Well, these things happen so suddenly that, you know, I've known cases where people have 323 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:39,480 had photo lenses and movie cameras in their hands, well, all this was going on and they'd 324 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:40,480 forget to take pictures. 325 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,480 That's exciting. 326 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,480 That was just that great. 327 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:44,480 Okay. 328 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,480 We're curious to know we got our number. 329 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,480 Oh, let's see. 330 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:54,480 My mother, baby sits a little girl whose mother works at the police station. 331 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:55,480 Oh. 332 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,480 And I guess her supervisor got it. 333 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:58,480 Great. 334 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:03,480 Are you getting very many calls in Seattle? 335 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,480 Oh, we get a lot of calls. 336 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:15,480 In fact, the last, not from generally the Seattle area, but we cover, can you hold a minute? 337 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,480 Do you have a reporting center? 338 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:19,480 Yeah. 339 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:24,480 I would just, I don't know what I'm supposed to do, but anyway, I talked to a guy down 340 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,480 to the airport and I'm here in Medford, Oregon. 341 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,480 Yes, sir, could you hold for just one second? 342 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:31,480 Okay. 343 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:32,480 Can I call you back? 344 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:33,480 I got a long distance call. 345 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:34,480 Oh, okay. 346 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:35,480 Yeah, sure. 347 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:36,480 Anytime here. 348 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:37,480 Okay, thanks. 349 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:38,480 You betcha. 350 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:39,480 Bye. 351 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:40,480 Bye.